I mean, as it's fascinating, Phil, you were mentioning this is just a topic of fascination to people in this field, and even not in this field. And then I got invited to one of the summary cable conferences that Alan is on the program committee for, and he and I would kind of kick off for a couple of years there, the two- day conference in Singapore. I think we crossed paths at a NANOG Conference and we started chatting. So then I started getting into this and then I got onto Alan and Tim's radar. Phillip Gervasi: Which is why you work with folks like Alan and others, I'm sure.ĭoug Madory: Yeah. But it's a bit of an art trying to suss out a submarine cable event in internet measurement data. But as an analyst, trying to make these inferences, it becomes more difficult. It's better for the internet, a lot more resilience. Over the years with the additional cables, it's become harder. There's an IP transit service that also goes over the cable, but then there's lots of other stuff that goes over the cable too that you'd have to infer who is using it based on outages. So in the case of Angola Cables or C- COM or there's a few. Occasionally, there is a submarine cable owned by a telecom that does an IP service that is strictly using that cable. You have to kind of make a lot of inferences.ĭoug Madory: Yeah. It's not that easy to map internet measurement data to submarine cables because things aren't labeled. So anyway, so that's why I got into submarine cable stuff. And I was like, " All right, can I see an activation?" And once I started to get kind of good at that, then it led to a couple of discoveries, one of those being activation of the ALBA- 1 submarine cable to Cuba, which we just celebrated the 10- year anniversary last month of that activation.
#Submarine cable map from nyc to london free#
I was subscriber to at least all the geography free stuff of just announcements about new cables. Can you see if you can figure out, can we see submarine cable events, activations, breaks in our measurement data?" And so, I started to try to get smart on the field and follow headlines. And one of the initial requests I had from my boss at the time was, " Hey, we always get asked about submarine cable, this or that. But also what your experience is working with Alan and TeleGeography from the perspective in the context of internet analysis?ĭoug Madory: Yeah, so I've been doing internet measurement and internet analysis since 2009, back when I was with Renesys.
#Submarine cable map from nyc to london professional#
Can you explain to us a little bit about your own professional background, of course. And Doug, also great to have you on and returning to us as well. So covering a wide range of research areas at TeleGeography. Looking at the pricing of various services as well, from wavelengths to IP transit to enterprise services as well. So we're gathering data on the supply domain of bandwidth globally on the submarine cables, the terrestrial networks, the IP backbones, data centers. We're a market research company focused really on the international telecom industry. So I'm a director of research at TeleGeography. I'm really happy to be here today and talk to you guys. Can you give our audience just a little bit of your background, what you do for TeleGeography, of course, but your background overall as somebody in this field?Īlan Mauldin: Thanks, Phil. Am I right? It really is cool to talk to you today. Just having spoken to Doug quite a bit about what you do, and then of course, the fact that everybody in our industry seems to be enamored when we look at submarine cable maps.
Alan, thank you for joining us today, really appreciate it. My name is Phillip Gervasi, and this is Telemetry Now. Now, in this episode, we'll be answering those questions and more, and we'll even get into some of the geopolitical nuance of submarine cables. Also, joining again today is Doug Madory, Director of Internet Analysis at Kentik. So how does that work? Who owns those cables? Who repairs them? Who pays for them? And not only that, how do they work and how much data can these submarine cables actually move? With us today is Alan Mauldin, Research Director at TeleGeography and a subject matter expert on the submarine cables, making the global internet possible. Under our oceans is an entire ecosystem of undersea fiber optic cable technology crisscrossing thousands of miles back and forth beneath waves, moving huge amounts of data from data center to data center, country to country, continent to continent. Phillip Gervasi: How does the massive amount of internet traffic really get around the world so fast, so reliably, pretty much regardless of what country you're in? Now, the answer isn't satellites, not even close.
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